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El Espada
01-09-2008, 06:01 PM
Okay. I'm waiting on pay day to pick up my c# books to help me program. So in the mean time does anyone have suggestions on some free web sources? Been to msdn and watched the videos (kinda boring considering the dude talks in a monochromatic voice) and really haven't gained a lot from it. Since a lot of you have had to learn C# to build your bots I was hoping that u may have some online resources for me and others new to this game.

Alex
01-09-2008, 10:26 PM
Hey El Espada,

I just did some filtering for ya (there's a lot of crappy ones tutorials there). Here are some good (and free) online tutorials to help get ya started.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/aa700759.aspx
http://www.softsteel.co.uk/tutorials/cSharp/contents.html
http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=14452 (Dan's a good friend of ours)
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/bb308730.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb330918.aspx

that should tide ya over till you get your books;)

For anyone reading this thread, you can download C# Express 2005 (along with any of the other 2005 Express languages) at the following link:
http://www.microsoft.com/express/2005/download/default.aspx

For anyone interested in a hardback book, I also have an incredible book that has helped me in so many ways when I was learning C#. The title is "Pro C# 2005 and the .NET 2.0 Platform" written by Andrew Troelsen and published by Apress. There have been quite a few revisions since I went through it, to accommodate the newer versions of C# and the .NET Platform.

El Espada
01-10-2008, 01:17 PM
Thanks I'll go through those tonight!

El Espada
01-13-2008, 09:52 PM
I took back the C++ book I bought today to Books A Million and got this http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books?id=4002825121218&isbn=0735621292 !
Im going to purchase that book that you mentioned in an earlier post. The one with all of those hardware based projects. Well guys wish me luck on this endeavor. Im extremely mechanical minded so if i can get this down then we should see some cool stuff hopefully.

Alex
01-14-2008, 12:00 PM
I haven't checked that book out yet, so I can't say anything good or bad about it:(


Good luck on learning C# El Espada! While I was still learning C#, I found a ton of help in the MSDN forums:

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/default.aspx?SiteID=1

By all means though, if you got some questions along the way, I can help ya out in our Software and Programming forums (http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21):)

jdolecki
01-14-2008, 12:13 PM
If possible you should go the the local book store.

Here at Barns and Noble in oak brook i just go in a spend a couple hours and read what i want.

And i never have to buy it unless i really want it.

Alex
01-14-2008, 02:52 PM
Ha! Sounds like me;)

I used to go up to Borders in Schaumburg alot and read all my books!

fish123456
03-03-2008, 11:14 AM
Don't forget the library. Yes, they still exist, and my local library has a bunch of stuff on .NET and programming in general. I'm sure the selection will vary on how big of town you live in.

If you don't mind spending a little bit of money (about the cost of a good book) you could check out http://www.learnvisualstudio.net. They have over 500 video tutorials on various concepts and they are pretty well put together. I wish they had some newer ones on .NET 3.0/3.5, but they have plenty of stuff to get you started.

Alex
03-03-2008, 04:51 PM
Don't forget the library.

Haha! Man, how come I always forget about the public library? Yes, definitely check out your local public library! I've found a lot of good programming books at libraries:D

robot maker
07-31-2008, 03:24 PM
good thing about videos its sometimes better then a book
but big downside is that a book you get to keep for reference in video you cant


Don't forget the library. Yes, they still exist, and my local library has a bunch of stuff on .NET and programming in general. I'm sure the selection will vary on how big of town you live in.

If you don't mind spending a little bit of money (about the cost of a good book) you could check out http://www.learnvisualstudio.net. They have over 500 video tutorials on various concepts and they are pretty well put together. I wish they had some newer ones on .NET 3.0/3.5, but they have plenty of stuff to get you started.

4mem8
11-03-2008, 11:08 AM
ok guys, it looks like I am going to have to take the plunge in this C# programing thing to get the best outa my robots, Been putting this of for years, and now it has come to the crunch, Lots of robots not doing much. So I want to learn P-basic and C# for both my Pic type CPU's and Pico ITX systems, Pic or BS2 books I have Atom pro28 ect, Just need to get some good C# books now and Alex and Adrenalynn have pointed me in the right direction. Thanks.

darkback2
11-03-2008, 11:25 AM
Seriously folks, check out MAX/MSP (http://www.cycling74.com)or if your too cheap for that check out PureData (http://www.puredata.org). Pure data is a free version of max. You basically make a flow chart of a program...only it is the program. A monkey program using these languages...heck...I do it.

No seriously though, its wicked easy...and I'm lonely.

DB

4mem8
11-04-2008, 03:56 AM
Darkback, Both URL's NOT found, Can you recheck please.

lnxfergy
11-04-2008, 06:15 AM
Gotta cut the trossenrobotics part off.

http://www.cycling74.com
http://www.puredata.org

-Fergs

darkback2
11-04-2008, 07:33 AM
I just edited the links, but fergs beat me too it.

I'll try to get a patcher made for controlling the SSC-32 using puredata which is the free version.

DB

4mem8
11-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Thanks Inexfergy: DB: pity they stopped selling their products http://www.bluemelon.org/index.php/Main_page/BlueSense

In conjunction with puredata.

darkback2
11-04-2008, 03:17 PM
I have a performance on Saturday using PD MAX/MSP and 3 of my robots. Sunday if I'm still alive I'll put together a tutorial on how to use PD and hopefully I'll post the patcher for controlling an SSC-32.

DB

4mem8
11-05-2008, 01:05 AM
Cool DB, worth looking at.