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Tyberius
07-13-2008, 01:44 PM
I'm sure a lot of you have already heard about Fon Davis (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0204603/) and his project MORAV (http://morav.net/) but for those of you who haven't, you should definitely check this out.
Here is his Gen 1 MORAV mech design:
http://morav.net/images/behindthescenes/Gen1.jpg
Gen 3:
http://morav.net/images/robots/RIM00030.jpg
Keep in mind these are working animatronic robots, here's some video of how they're controlling them.
YouTube - MORAV robot test 1 of 2
YouTube - MORAV Robot test 2 of 2
Pretty awesome stuff. I've talked with Fon about Mech Wars and he thinks the competition is awesome, we might even have a cameo appearance of the MORAV mechs at Robogames 2009 :)
4mem8
07-13-2008, 01:52 PM
Oh man that is so great, Thanks Tyberius for those vids, what a goal to work to, Although they probably have unlimited resources for there work. But real nice to see it in action. Are they using the AX-12 117 servos?
Tyberius
07-13-2008, 01:57 PM
Think they're using HSR-5990s. And actually this project is done in Fon's personal studio, so they certainly don't have unlimited resources, just lots of know-how.
I don't know Fon, but he has the job of my dreams.
Those things are amazing, and my #1 reason to go all out on armour and aesthetics.
That and the fact my bot 'll prolly never see combat :mad:
4mem8
07-13-2008, 07:31 PM
Man, he funds his own workshop, real cool.
A-Bot
07-13-2008, 07:48 PM
That and the fact my bot 'll prolly never see combat :mad:
Why do you say that? :robotsurprised:
I'm from Belgium. Little far to come over for the weekend, and I'm quite sure I'm not gonna get someone back here to compete.
But we'll see.. maybe if I can get a kick-ass mech put together I'll check to see if it's not too expensive to come over.
darkback2
07-14-2008, 10:07 AM
why make one when you can make two for twice as much. Just make two, and then you can start the fighting all on your own. Why do you think I have two isobots...(Ok...so they are a little on the cheap side, but they are fun...funny)
How close are you to Antwerp? Is there a robotics community in Europe?
DB
Well, given the distances you guys are used to in America, Antwerp is right next door :happy:
I'm just east of the center of Belgium, Leuven to be precise (or Louvain, as it's pronounced in english/french)
Robotics communities in Belgium are rare, there is one in which some guys are working on a robot vision program, but otherwise it's mostly converted RC cars and line-following.
Don't get me wrong, i'm all for any kind of robotics, but i'd much prefer a robot club with people building bipeds / quads / hexes.
In any case, a buddy of mine is gonna start working on a website I'd have some input on, and we're hoping to get in touch with some more roboticists in the neighbourhood.
Wow! Those things are awesome!
It would be fun to compete against yourself (espacialy if you want to advance a automous mech, that's how you train it :wink: ). I don't want to discurage, but I think you are going to find it boring not long after (at least I would). It depends what you want. You want to go to a competition for a week-end (you could probably stay there a week, go to LA after, take a week off) and find hundreds (if not thousands) of robotics enthousiats... I would love to go too. For 800$ thought I could do a lot of other things. :sad:
Exactly, that's my point Sam.
I'm a young guy, still live at home, saving up to buy a house, unfortunately back here the markets haven't crashed and they're massively expensive... (think 300k$ for a tiny house in dire need of renovation..)
But who knows, maybe I'll get a tax refund in time for the robogames, and I can convince the GF to tag along.
4mem8
07-15-2008, 01:17 AM
*Sigh* I might have to compete against myself as the distance to the U.S is so far. Make my own arena and two autonomous bots.
Awesome.
The 'waldo' type control system is exactly what I'd like to use on my projects, at least for the upper body. I believe it is what 'King Kaiser' uses to maneuver their entries. Do you know what they used for telemetry and control Tyberius? As far as hardware is concerned? I think people would love to watch a couple of mechs with this much attention to detail incorporated into the design. The armour adds weight but it also adds believe ablity and strength to the design.
Tyberius
07-15-2008, 10:15 AM
It's a fully custom designed telemetry suit. Fon said it was just made from random aluminum and potentiometers read by a micro, and relayed through a PC.
Do you have suggestions, or is it even possable for me to control my RN-1 real-time like this with pots using my PC and the control board(s) that are OEM with the RN-1?
Tyberius
07-15-2008, 12:12 PM
Do you have suggestions, or is it even possable for me to control my RN-1 real-time like this with pots using my PC and the control board(s) that are OEM with the RN-1?
I don't know enough about the RN-1 control board to give you an accurate answer on that. It's certainly feasible with an SSC-32 though. I've looked into implementing this same control scheme for the upper torso of my J5.... lower torso on a humanoid would be painfully difficult and not worth it though imo, legs just don't match up.
If you know a bit of programming, concept is simple. Potentiometers are read by a micro with a good amount of analog inputs, input is translated to relative servo movements on the robot.
I was planning on using a basic stamp with some A/D converters, have it send the input via serial bluetooth to my robot's pico ITX, write an interface program in C# that runs locally on the pico itx board which in turn controls the SSC-32. Simple in concept, never got to the point of attempting implementation though.
JonHylands
07-15-2008, 01:43 PM
I've done this more or less with BrainBot, using a second Bioloid model.
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I've done this more or less with BrainBot, using a second Bioloid model.
Wow! That's pretty nice and I bet it's that all that complex to do (just need a lot of time :veryhappy:)
Ha! Love the "voodoo" name :veryhappy:
Great work there Jon! Is it just for 'puppeteering' purposes or do you use it to program motion sequences?
JonHylands
07-15-2008, 06:22 PM
The voodoo setup is actually for making demo videos, to show off the capabilities of the robot.
4mem8
07-15-2008, 11:17 PM
JonHylands: great video, Love it. If only my J5 could do that. very nice.
tom_chang79
07-16-2008, 12:03 AM
I love the Gen 3... The palm is just trick!
Your set up is very inspiring. Can you control the focus on the lenses with that unit also?
I'd like to set up a hexapod with something like that with the tips of the controlling 'dummy' legs attached to two tripod/control sticks so that you would directly control alternating leg groups in a manually directed tripod gait.
After my biped is done...
^_^
JonHylands
07-16-2008, 08:52 AM
Your set up is very inspiring. Can you control the focus on the lenses with that unit also?
Yes, those cameras include manual zoom and focus adjustments.
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