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08-09-2008, 12:05 AM
CONTEST: The Crabfu Challenge


For those of you guys familiar with my tinkerings, know that I'm all about character, and tech is only used to achieve the illusion of life. So somehow I ended up with a bit of trossen credit, and figured instead of just hording it, that I would start another competition, and give away the store credit.

The challenge:
To bring a bunch of hardware the illusion of life and character. This is NOT about AI or fancy software or hardware. It's not to achieve real character or personality, but the ILLUSION of it. Autonomous robots can enter too, but this isn't a contest of the smartest robot, but a smartest "looking" and "moving" robot could win. This is about the art of breathing some charm into a bunch of electronics. So the goal is simple, the most characterful robot wins.

The reward:
First place: $100 credit for anything you want from Trossen Robotics, it will be a transfer of a promo code from me to the winner.
Second place: choice of either ~$20 of trossen credit, OR two used denso motors. Donated by DB!
Third Place: What second place doesn't want

-You can use any material you wish, add on whatever cosmetics you like. Cute and friendly, or mean and bad a$$, shy and nervous, gross, beefy, or whatever you choose.... as long as it triggers an emotional reaction by the way it moves and looks. Some materials that I've used to good sucess:

*Aluminum sheets are easily to cut, drill, and bend to shape. If the bot is small, soda cans works great, and can be cut with scissors, turned inside out or painted.
*Lexan.... soda bottles, plastic shrink wrap that you get with just about everything you buy these days.... all are great sources of material. After you cut to the shape you like, you can paint them with lexan paint (trust me, only use lexan paint if you work with this sort of plastic) from the inside or outside, depending on if you want a shinny gloss finish, or a dull matte look.
*wood... don't knock wood, it's easy to work with
These are just suggestions, you can use whatever junk you have around, or go custom with vacuum form, injection plastic, shapelock, whatever.

-This contest will not be judged by anything but for character, so it will not matter how complex or simple the robot is. Any type of robot can enter.... even a few servos could win, if it's got the most personality.

-Armor, cosmetics, whatever you add to your bot, must NOT interfere with the natural movement of your robot. It also can NOT be too heavy so that the robot does not function well.

-The robot must move in some way, this is not a statue contest. Movement is a HUGE part of character, this contest isn't just about body works, but how characterful the movements are as well. Sound effects is not required or judged, but if it adds to the character of the bot, go for it!

-Entries must be entered with at least one pic and a movie.

- I, Crabfu, will be the judge... so bribes will be considered, starting at $100.99. Short of receiving a bribe, the contest will be based purely on which bot shows the most character. Dress up your existing robot, or make a new one if you wish.... but it's all about adding custom and unique things to your bot, adding the extra polish to your creation, or fully customize the LOOKS of your stock robot. Add motions so that it looks alive, and in character.

- You can not enter your robots that were finished before the start of this competition, not as is anyway. The idea is to make a new one, or take an old bot and add so much stuff to it, that it does not look or act like the original. If you enter a previously build bot, please include an before and after pic. Another words, I won't be impressed if you took your humanoid, and added a hat to it and nothing else.

- Aesthetics. You won't win if you just glue a bunch of random stuff on your robot. Care and planning must go into the bot, so it looks polished and well designed.

-Creativity. Don't try and do something that someone has done before.... this means no recreating a robot from your favorite movie etc. Make your own designs!

-One robot entry per builder please. You may post many pics or movies if you wish, as long as the entry is only for one particular bot.

The deadline:
Deadline is one month from today, so ends 9/8/08 at midnight... should be plenty of time. Winner will be announced the next day, and promo code worth a hundred little ones transfered over :veryhappy:

So get moving folks, may the most characterful pile of moving hardware win....



YouTube - Darwin shot low

YouTube - Robot Horror Flick

YouTube - Delfigelo robot

Robot Piggie
YouTube - Robot Piggie

YouTube - BubbleBoy Complete

08-09-2008, 12:20 AM
Fantastic CrabFu! I wish I had some free time in the next month to participate in this, but you definitely get +rep for this incredibly generous and awesome idea.

Since Engadget loves you so, you should see if they'll blurb about this, might get a good amount of new people involved!

08-09-2008, 12:30 AM
Your freaking amazing.


08-09-2008, 12:43 AM

You are awesome and very generous! :veryhappy:


08-09-2008, 02:24 AM
What can I say Crabfu, Generous indeed. Damn I want to enter this, I will have to see If I have time as I have three bots on the go right now J5, Wall-E and Ed 209. But it is very very tempting to enter. And a 100 big ones. Nice idea.

08-09-2008, 03:19 AM
I added your contest to the Master List (http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/showthread.php?t=2218) Crabfu. Want to check and make sure the one-liner is suitable?

Thanks for sponsoring this! +rep from me if the system will allow it (if I'm "spread it around" enough). [edit: Yup! +54 from me! :)]

08-09-2008, 03:27 AM
What can I say Crabfu, Generous indeed. Damn I want to enter this, I will have to see If I have time as I have three bots on the go right now J5, Wall-E and Ed 209. But it is very very tempting to enter. And a 100 big ones. Nice idea.
Woot! Maybe I have a chance then.. :veryhappy: :veryhappy: I am building my entry right now, and I don't think this method of locomotion has been done yet. :veryhappy:


08-09-2008, 11:34 AM
Some of you overestimate my contacts.... The coverage that some of my work has achieved, is based on what this competition is about. Creativity, charm, personality, character etc goes a long way. I only have a few friends that I email when I've created something new, and it either fizzles out or gather momentum on its own. I only know they've made it big only when they come through my rss feed, or friends email me to tell me congrats making it on some big site :) Ahhh, the power of character... With that said, I don't expect this to end up being blogged, because the prize isn't that big to be geek news worthy, and there are no eye candy, no attention grabbers for the masses... but we'll see.

Ok, so to add to the mix, DB is donating more prizes!!!! Thanks DB!!!

Second place: choice of either ~$20 of trossen credit, OR two used denso motors.
Third Place: What second place doesn't want.

In case of a tie, contestants will enter sudden death tic tac toe.

Ok, enough talk, show me da character!


08-09-2008, 04:03 PM
Blogged by MAKE! :)



08-09-2008, 04:14 PM
I can really only think of one response...


That's all I got.

08-15-2008, 03:50 PM
How do I make an entry? Just post it here?:confused:

08-15-2008, 03:56 PM
gimmelotsarobots: Welcome to crabfu's competition, Yeah just post it right here. Have you read crabfu's post from the beginning?? good luck.

08-15-2008, 04:02 PM
Yeah just post up pics & video here :)


08-16-2008, 02:09 PM
Alright, Here's my entry:
Meet Garg, The steel Gargoyle thingy. He was rejected from a toy store when he was first made which is how I came across him wandering the streets biteing peoples toes. Ok, fine. I made made him.

<embed id="VideoPlayback" style="width:400px;height:326px" allowFullScreen="true" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-2653435768443144235&hl=en&fs=true" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"> </embed> (http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-2653435768443144235&hl=en&fs=true)

08-16-2008, 02:10 PM
Why doesn't the video or the picture come up?

08-16-2008, 02:11 PM
Also the image I set for my signature doesn't work. Why doesn't anything work?:mad:

08-16-2008, 02:23 PM
Just post a direct link to the video in your post, and it should automagically embed it for you. I tried for you but couldn't find a direct link.

08-16-2008, 02:25 PM
Nod. No html in posts. Let the forum engine do its job.

08-16-2008, 02:26 PM

Unfortunately google's video player isn't goldbrick compatible at first blush.

08-16-2008, 04:25 PM
Alright, Here's my entry:
Meet Garg, The steel Gargoyle thingy. He was rejected from a toy store when he was first made which is how I came across him wandering the streets biteing peoples toes. Ok, fine. I made made him. I was having trouble filming and driving at the same time as it takes two hands two drive the robot.

Here's a link to th full picture.
And here's a link to the video. Enjoy!:)

08-16-2008, 04:26 PM
Uh, Sorry about the image size.

08-16-2008, 04:37 PM
nice one gimmelotsarobots!!! he's got some personality! :) Great to see the first entry, keep em coming!


08-16-2008, 04:42 PM
Hey Gimme, if you upload your picture to the Image Gallery (http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/upload.php) you can get a direct link to the picture, which you simply need to paste in here and the forum software will auto-thumbnail it for you.

08-16-2008, 05:21 PM
Thanks, I thumbnailed it.

Droid Works
08-16-2008, 06:28 PM
The video doesn't work, can you upload it to youtube.com

08-16-2008, 08:26 PM
Video works fine for me...

08-16-2008, 09:34 PM
Alright, Here's my entry:That's awesome! Great work. I love the tail (or scorpion sting?).

08-16-2008, 10:38 PM
Nice touch gimmelotsarobots: very funny, certainly has personality.

08-20-2008, 01:38 AM
the tail was a nice touch, i could imagine it roaming the bustling sidewalks!

08-22-2008, 01:46 PM
I think I'm going to try my hand at this. I've never tried to build something that "looks" cool. I've always gone for the machines that are mostly plywood with electronics bolted on.

08-22-2008, 02:27 PM
Man I'd love to enter this comp, but I have no time whatsoever to build anything on time :-)

08-29-2008, 02:35 PM
I wish I could read a calender. I've been busting my butt to get my entry done thinking that it was due this Monday.

09-02-2008, 03:08 AM
Just a reminder.... one week warning! deadline is the 8th, next Monday! We have 3 prizes and only 1 entry so far...


09-02-2008, 04:03 AM
I would loved to have entered this crabfu, but I have some deadlines with Wall-E and just could not fit it in.Sorry.

09-02-2008, 10:05 AM
I believe I will post my entry in the next couple of days. I need to clean up the code a bit first. Should it be posted in this thread?

09-02-2008, 11:23 AM
I believe I will post my entry in the next couple of days. I need to clean up the code a bit first. Should it be posted in this thread?

yeppers, just post up pics & vid here when you're ready :)


09-02-2008, 12:23 PM
I'll be entering soooooooooon!!!!

(Please don't end the contest without me) =D

09-03-2008, 12:26 AM
im done soon too! im really excited to see what these entries will be!!!

09-06-2008, 11:08 PM
This is my entry Darwin, named because I didn't really plan this project, it just evolved . He is an autonomous robot with obstacle avoidance ran by a PicAxe 18x microcontroller. His claim to fame is his locomotion system. It is comprised of two servos modified for continuous rotation. A servo arm was glued to a leg cut out of 1/8" plywood on a scroll saw. The legs were finally coated with Plasti-coat to give them grip.

http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/files/1/7/6/7/dscn0028_thumb.jpg (http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=686&c=3&userid=1767)

http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/files/1/7/6/7/dscn0002_thumb.jpg (http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=683&c=3&userid=1767)

Please ignore the battery pack he is sitting on in the picture below. I needed something to lift him up a bit for the picture.
http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/files/1/7/6/7/dscn0006_thumb.jpg (http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=684&c=3&userid=1767)

Here is detail of the leg before coating:
http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/files/1/7/6/7/dscn0019_thumb.jpg (http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=685&c=3&userid=1767)

He avoids obstacles by using a sharp IR sensor embedded in his head. He will wander forward until he comes to an obstacle and then turn to avoid it. He will also occasionally look around an pick the best path to follow.

Here is a video showing him wandering a corner of my office:
YouTube - Darwin shot lowThis one shows him looking about a bit better:
YouTube - Darwin Avoiding obstacles

09-06-2008, 11:23 PM
This is the code that gives Darwin life. This is the first time I have written code for this micro. It was pretty easy to pick up although I am certain that it can be optimized.

' Darwin robot picaxe 18x controller code
' Written by jes1510
' September 2, 2008

' This software is for obstacle avoidance for the Darwin robot.
' It first looks for an obstacle to the front of the robot. If an obstacle is detected then it turns
' in a random direction. It also monitors the button on the botton of the robot. Once the button has
' been pressed 3 times then the motors are stopped and the robot turns the servo to look to the left,
' right, and then center, taking ir readings in all 3 positions. It picks a path based on the IR readings.

' Setup variables and Symbols
symbol leds = 3 ' LED eyes on output pin 3
symbol irPin = 0 ' IR on input pin 0
symbol buttonPresses = b3 ' Variable to hold button press count
symbol irLeft = b0 ' IR readings on left variable
symbol irCenter = b1 ' IR readings for center variable
symbol irRight = b2 ' IR readings on right variable
symbol servoPin = 0 ' Servo is connected to output pin 0
symbol buttonPin = pin2 ' Button connected to input pin 2

' Initialize
servo servoPin, 120 ' Initializes a servo on output pin0
let buttonPresses = 0 ' Initialize the button count variable to 0
high leds ' Turn on the LED eyes

' Main Loop
random w4 ' initialize a random number in word 4

if buttonPin = 1 then inc buttonPresses endif 'increment the var if the button is pressed

if buttonPresses = 3 then
let buttonPresses = 0 'reset the button press variable
gosub stopMotors
servopos servoPin, 75 'Far left

pause 750
readadc irPin, irLeft
gosub blink
servopos servoPin, 120 'center

pause 750
readadc irPin, irCenter
gosub blink
servopos servoPin, 165 'far right

pause 750
readadc irPin, irRight
gosub blink

servopos servoPin, 120 ' back to center


if irLeft > irCenter and irLeft > irRight and irLeft > 20 then gosub right ' Turn right
if irCenter > irLeft and irCenter > irRight and irCenter > 20 then gosub rvs ' Backup and turn
if irRight > irLeft and irRight > irCenter and irRight > 20 then gosub left ' Turn left

irLeft = 0
irCenter = 0
irRight = 0


readadc irPin, irCenter '
if irCenter > 45 then gosub randDir ' Go in a random direction if there is an obstacle straight ahead
gosub fwd

goto main ' Loop forever

fwd: ' Drive both motors forward

high 5
low 4
high 6
low 7
pause 500

goto main

left: ' Left motor reverse, right motor forward
high 4
low 5
high 6
low 7
pause 1500
goto main

right: ' Right motor reverse, left motor forward
high 5
low 4
high 7
low 6
pause 1500
goto main

stopMotors: ' Both motors stopped
low 5
low 4
low 6
low 7

rvs: ' Reverse both motors, turn in random direction
high 4
low 5
high 7
low 6
pause 3000
gosub randDir

blink: ' Blinks the LED eyes
low leds
pause 50
high leds

randDir: ' pick a direction based on the random number
if w4 > 32766 then goto right
if w4 <= 32766 then goto left

09-06-2008, 11:27 PM
Wow Jes, that is fantastic!

Really like the aesthetic, and the head movement for what I presume is object scanning adds a great deal of character.

09-06-2008, 11:44 PM
awesome jes, cute lil bugger you got there! made me smile, very creative lol :)

Not much time left, so anyone else who wants to enter, post now!


09-07-2008, 12:29 AM
ill be done by monday!!!

09-07-2008, 01:26 AM
Wow Jes, that is fantastic!

Really like the aesthetic, and the head movement for what I presume is object scanning adds a great deal of character.

Yes the head movement is object scanning. It looks at 3 points and then moves away from the closest object.

It is built almost entirely out of junk I had here since my robot funds are kind of limited right now. The main body is an old ball mouse painted black. The mouse also houses the electronics, a PicAxe 18x with a power board that I have had for over a year and never powered up. Underneath the mouse is the battery box with an on/off switch. The drive servos are mounted to the bottom of the battery box. the head motion is controlled by a micro servo I pulled out of a crashed RC helicopter. The rest is made out of scrap Styrofoam.

Thanks for the kind words guys!

09-07-2008, 02:21 AM
Given that I only got one vote in the junkbot challange (http://forums.trossenrobotics.com/showthread.php?t=1876) and voting closes tomorrow and that the robot is an homage to Crabfu...it was suggested that I post it here.

Meet Lisa.

Here she is with her body work torn off, showing her squishy bits.
Side shot
Aww yeah...full frontal.(Ok...that was probably going too far.)
Here is the video from youtube.



09-07-2008, 04:51 PM
ha ha! fantastic!

09-07-2008, 09:24 PM
Unfortunatly had a client dump some work on me this last weekend. :confused:
I'm hoping because I'm +12 GMT that I still have a few hours this evening to finish my entry as best I can.

Going to post finished or not ... most likely it will be lacking locomotion, but the core concept is working.

09-08-2008, 02:07 AM
Yes, it was a crunch for time but i am done, introducing Delfigelo he is a cute little sweeper-bot with potential for much much more... i made him with 2 continuos servos, 3 micros, ar7000 receiver, 6v battery, dx7, and a rc light switch. i hope he stands a chance!:D

YouTube - Delfigelo robot

09-08-2008, 02:25 AM
OMG! Freakin' adorable! Is that an alarm clock repurposed for his head? ROFL! AWESOME! You're killing me!

09-08-2008, 07:12 AM
Well it's 12pm Midnight (+12GMT) and I just spent the last hour and a half wrestling with my ISP and youTube.

I present the Robot Piggie.

YouTube - Robot Piggie




Constructed from:
4 channel Radio RX/TX (Thanks Nick S) + 4 micro servos + 4AA Batt. Pack
Plywood - Paper clips - Plastic (recycled)
Eyes for Teddies (from craft shop) - Heat shrink tubing
Double sided tape - 2x Wood Screws

The core idea too see how much expression could be displayed using only two servos.
One of the first things you learn in drawing / comics is that eyes and eyebrows are a good medium for expresing emotion.
Based on this I have one servo controlling the eyeborws and the other the eye and head movement.

I had planned to add Red LEDs to his eyes that light up when he is 'angry' and also a more elegant gait.
Also was hoping to add a rounder face and a fatter body cover, alas my time for these projects is in short supply.

His ears are made from milk bottle plastic and his nose is a cocacola bottle top! (Heatguns are a great tool!)

09-08-2008, 08:08 AM
Briefly, BubbleBoy was created to demonstrate emotions and their applications in robotics. BubbleBoy has a food and water level, and when averaged out, a health level. The mood is determined by the health level. There are 10 moods, each of which BubbleBoy has a little ‘action set’ with. This is to try to get more food! After the ‘action set’ is over, you can feed it or give it water. When the food/water button is pressed, it increases the food/water level by a random int in between a lower bound and upper bound. Also, when BubbleBoy finishes three ‘action sets’, it becomes more hungry and thirsty - thereby decreasing the food/water levels. So, BubbleBoy is similar to a ‘tamigotchi’. It was fun to make- BB has 2 servos, 2 DC motors, 2 buttons, 4 LEDs, 1 LDR, and 1 LCD. All of these are controlled by the Arduino board.

This is how BubbleBoy grooves around:
YouTube - BubbleBoy Complete
This is me playing with BubbleBoy:
YouTube - Playing with BubbleBoy

The LCD:

BubbleBoy from the other side:

Circuit Diagram:

What I believe makes BubbleBoy have a lot of character is the way it interacts with its environment. Its head can move on the X axis, and on the Y axis! Its hat can spin, and its hula-ring can vibrate. The LEDs for water and food will turn on when their level reaches 70 or lower (so yoou know you should feed it!). When you feed it, or give it water, it will be more happy! :)

Here is the source code for the Arduino (http://robotgrrl.com/bubbleboy/bubbleBoy_v1.zip)

Here are some other useful links about BubbleBoy:
YouTube - BubbleBoy ProgrammingThis is what it's like inside of the box:

YouTube - BubbleBoyYouTube - Bubble BoyWhen the wiring was simple:

YouTube - Bubble Boy WORX!BubbleBoy, a very long long long time ago!

BubbleBoy's First Coat:

Tons and tons and tons of more pictures can be found at RobotGrrl.com (http://robotgrrl.com) :)

09-08-2008, 09:06 AM
the new generation of tamigotchi! ha ha ! i love it!

09-08-2008, 11:08 AM
That's one nervous and paranoid piggy a couple posts back!

R'Grrl! GREAT to see you back! Wow. You've learned a bit since Stanford, I see! Thanks for sharing your Arduino work - it's inspiring!

Could I convince you to turn that into a tutorial? It's basically cut-and-paste to become a good tutorial now!

09-08-2008, 12:03 PM
LOL great entries folks... wow :) Man this is not gonna be easy to decide!

To clear up some confusion, the last date to enter is TODAY, 9/8/08, a month from the start of the thread... we'll accept any submissions up to midnight tonight, given the confusion and time zone differences, I'm not going to be all that strict about exact time of entry etc :)

So any more stragglers, post them up!

Again, awesome bots everyone, they all have lots of character & charm!!!


09-08-2008, 01:00 PM
Yes, it was a crunch for time but i am done, introducing Delfigelo he is a cute little sweeper-bot with potential for much much more... i made him with 2 continuos servos, 3 micros, ar7000 receiver, 6v battery, dx7, and a rc light switch. i hope he stands a chance!:D

Pladoh: On man, that is simply fantastic, Wall-e style robot, Had me in tears, so cool, You stand a very good chance Playdoh.:happy::happy:

09-08-2008, 01:12 PM
Robotgrrl: Brilliant effort, love the documentation,well done.

09-09-2008, 11:12 AM
The contest is officially closed for entries! Great job everyone, a nice batch of charming bots. I've edited the first post, to include video & name of each entry.

Ok, so give me a couple of days to decide on this one.... I'm asking some friends for opinions, and letting the charm of your bots soak in further :)


09-09-2008, 01:09 PM
Great competition crabfu, I look forward to the results.

09-10-2008, 11:45 PM
i played with delfigelo and the cat and it was hilarious is it cool if i post a vid?

09-11-2008, 04:33 PM
i played with delfigelo and the cat and it was hilarious is it cool if i post a vid?

Yeah of course, post it!

Ok so it's been a few days...and winners have not been announced... You guys did such a good job, that I am having a heck of a tough time deciding. You guys are not making this easy, so I need help from the big guns. I'm consulting with some of my friends who are in the business of character creation for games/movies, and not robot geeks who may be bias to the tech. So I appologize for the delayed results, but I'll post up results tomorrow night! I promise :)


09-11-2008, 06:58 PM
What ever happened to "I, Crabfu, will be the judge"? Man up! :p

09-12-2008, 05:30 PM
What ever happened to "I, Crabfu, will be the judge"? Man up! :p

well I didn't expect the competition to be this close, could have easily been a 3 way tie! I consulted with some friends who I really respects, in particular to opinions about character. Luckily everyone was in the same boat as my initial judgment. So time to announce the winners....



Robot Piggie
But it was really close folks... all of them have lots of visual personality. I wish that I had prizes to give away to the rest of the bunch...

So Jes, I'll pm you about the credit code. Pladoh, you have the choice of the second prize, so please pm darkback2 for what you'd like. And jagged will get the other prize, also donated by darkback2.

Thanks everyone for participating, and congrats to the winners. Regardless of who won what, I hope that this little competition inspires robot builders to add some charm to the machine, and shows the importance of visual creativity & emotional impact :)



09-12-2008, 05:42 PM
Congrats guys! Some very cool stuff here. I wish I could have participated, but I have had 0 time for hobbies recently due to real life.. :(

09-12-2008, 07:00 PM
Thanks a lot Crabfu! I have never built a robot and tried to make it look cool. I have always fallen into the trap of building a machine for a purpose without caring about how it looks or people feel about it. This competition was very inspiring! I was really impressed with the other entries and didn't think I stood a chance.

On a connected note, I showed the robot to my niece and she immediately said "I want one!". She usually looks at my creations with a mixture of disdain and confusion.

09-12-2008, 07:12 PM
She usually looks at my creations with a mixture of disdain and confusion.

Well, I have had my share of that :tongue: .

Good job evryone! VEry nice robots! I thought I had 'till monday to show the robot. Anyway.


09-12-2008, 10:43 PM
You did. LAST Monday.

Grats to all!

09-12-2008, 10:47 PM
it was totally fun! i had a great time buildin the bot! im definately goin to enter more contests!

09-13-2008, 12:36 AM
Congrats to all the winners...I think these contests really push us to make better robots.


09-13-2008, 03:03 AM
Congrats every one, real neat to see them all in action.

09-13-2008, 07:27 PM
Ok...so Pladoh has chosen the motors...jes1510 gets the $20 that I never used. I'm not sure how to transfer winnings...but hopefully someone can make it so.

09-13-2008, 08:10 PM
Uh the $20 should go to Jagged.

09-13-2008, 10:06 PM
Crabfu: If you run another comp like this I think I have one to enter for next time around, It has cost me about $18.50 U.S so far.

09-13-2008, 10:12 PM

09-13-2008, 10:49 PM
lol I don't have spare funds to support another competition! I don't even have funds for my own projects... so I think we're gonna have to count on trossen for more fun competitions coming up!


09-14-2008, 01:28 AM
I hear you on that one crabfu, NP.

09-14-2008, 11:01 AM
yeah np.

12-07-2008, 05:02 PM
Ha! way to go Crabfu, now it's getting the press it deserves, maybe it becomes an avalanche (and drags better prizes along the way.)

What's a few less hours of sleep anyway? I think I am down to a max of 4! See what I can come up with from the 3 to 6am shift :veryhappy: