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  1. Student Help - Opinions on highly anthropomorphised (humanlike) robots

    Hello All,

    I hope this is the right place to post a topic like this.

    It'd be of great use for my dissertation if I could get some of your expert opinions on robots that are designed to look like humans. I have attached images of android robots that have been developed. I'd appreciate if you could let me know your opinions on the following:

    What are your initial thoughts on their appearance, how do they make you feel?

    Are these robots how you imagine a robot to look like, if no, how do you imagine robots to look?

    Do you think designing the appearance of robots on real humans is a good thing?

    Do you feel threatened by these robots in terms of their human appearance?

    Do these type of robots scare you?

    Any sort of discussion around this topic will be useful, so don't feel pressured into strictly answering the questions I have asked.

    Thank you in advance!




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    Re: Student Help - Opinions on highly anthropomorphised (humanlike) robots

    Simply more uncanny valley resulting from an absurd obsession with making things look human, instead of just letting one's creativity run wild. There are very few limits on the appearance a robot can take, so why are so many people dedicated to making human-ish looking contraptions instead of using better suited designs? It's not like humans will produce anything even approaching cat-level intelligence/consciousness within the next several decades, so stop with the superficially human 'most useless machines' that cannot even manage to flip a switch. My response to the "it could help with prosthetics"-excuse is "you cannot ever use hobby servos in a prosthetic" and "work with the professionals at a practical effects shop instead of trying to reinvent the wheel yet again."

    So, no. They do not scare me, but they do make me very angry at other very stupid humans. Anyone who thinks we will have singularity/AI, brain uploading, or head transplants in the next several decades has a head quite full of shit. We'll be lucky to survive the next three years, and then we get to spend the next couple centuries struggling to survive because of greed, laziness, and willful ignorance.
    Please pardon the pedantry... and the profanity... and the convoluted speech pattern...
    "You have failed me, Brain!"
    bleh

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    Re: Student Help - Opinions on highly anthropomorphised (humanlike) robots

    All three of those look creepy. I think synthetic humans will be useful for entertainment, media, and porn.
    Also, psy ops. Imagine the Russians releasing fake video of various political figures saying things they never said into the US market!

    Separately, I think robots should look like whatever is most functional. If it's more functional to have something head-and-eyes-like, because the robot interacts with humans, then that would be fine, but I think "obviously robot" is better than "trying too hard and failing."

    (Regarding psy ops, we approximately have that technology right now -- Adobe has voice synthesis based on sampled original voices, and everyone Hollywood has good animation/rigging tech to render the video. I'm amazed that no such psy op bit has yet been perpetrated (or at least found out!))

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    Thanks tician,

    As jwatte has put I think a lot of these robots will be built for media uses and as sex robots! But, not only that I think they're hoping to use them to help certain humans. For instance, humans who want to talk to someone about a certain topic but are too scared to get judged by another human, though they are seeking human advice. These androids could be a substitute. Obviously, we're nowhere close to the capability of the human brain. But people might connect to the robot just from the human appearance. What do you think?

    Also, do you have any thoughts on how humans will come to accept these human-like robots into society?

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    Thanks jwatte,

    Yup I imagine psy ops could definitely be used with this haha!

    It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on how society may come to accept or disregard this type of technology if it were to be used in entertainment, media and porn?

    Thanks again

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    Re: Student Help - Opinions on highly anthropomorphised (humanlike) robots

    The question of whether robots will be used for entertainment comes down to whether people will want to go out into the real world, or stay inside and just watch screens. In the real world, human-like robots could obviously do anything from waiting tables, to magic shows. In the stay-at-home world, RealDoll has had a successful business for many years, and I imagine adding lifelike movement and response might be desirable for their customers. (Every once in a while, there's an internet feed of some weird new Japanese invention, too, but this is not really an area where I stay on top of developments.)

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    Re: Student Help - Opinions on highly anthropomorphised (humanlike) robots

    The major problem with trying to replace human workers with humanoid robots in most jobs is that the humanoid design is always unnecessarily complex to complete any task. Humans tend to be very flexible and adaptable, but that is usually counterproductive in robots. Robots designed to be able to complete a diverse range of tasks tend to be unable to do any of those tasks anywhere near as well as robots designed specifically for a subset of those tasks. Do you really think a humanoid robot would be the best choice for carrying dishes, cooking or serving food, or cleaning house? Asimo vacuuming floors instead of a Roomba?

    As for entertainment, CGI is much cheaper, faster, and adaptable compared to working with a physical object. Why make a humanoid robot tv presenter when there are already plenty of robotic humans doing the job? If going for fake interviews, CGI modifying a human actor is much better since you already get the minute human facial expressions of the actor as reference points instead of trying to reproduce the target with a robot and likely having to do CGI touch-ups anyway.

    And there are already plenty of 'robots' and CGI in certain subsets of porn.


    Not dissing RealDoll since there are genuinely decent people who have trouble interacting with other humans, but one inescapable horror of the world is the fact that many of those most enthusiastic about readily-available humanoid robots wrapped in a RealDoll shell tend to be those who should never be allowed to interact with actual humans. Scum such as those who use imagery from The Matrix to describe their supposed waking up to the horrors of feminism, despite the fact that the movie was written by two trans women and is basically a description of the hell trans people have to live with daily wrapped up in sci-fi superhero packaging.
    Please pardon the pedantry... and the profanity... and the convoluted speech pattern...
    "You have failed me, Brain!"
    bleh

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    "many of those most enthusiastic about readily-available humanoid robots wrapped in a RealDoll shell tend to be those who should never be allowed to interact with actual humans"
    That's pretty observant! I like it.

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    Re: Student Help - Opinions on highly anthropomorphised (humanlike) robots

    Quote Originally Posted by jwatte View Post
    That's pretty observant! I like it.
    I take it you've never followed WeHuntedTheMammoth (formerly Manboobz).
    Please pardon the pedantry... and the profanity... and the convoluted speech pattern...
    "You have failed me, Brain!"
    bleh

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    It seems I've managed to stay away. Probably not going to start now ;-)

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