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01-22-2008
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Bit Processor
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Phoenix, a multilegged creature
Last edited by Zenta; 04-14-2008 at 12:01 PM.
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01-22-2008
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Mech Warmonger
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
Wooohoooo Zenta!
I cannot tell you how much I love this hexapod, by far the most advanced movements I have ever seen, and to think it's I.K. calculations were 100% custom built using Excel. That blows my mind man. You should post up a pic of what your PEP screen looks like, I didn't even know Excel could be used that way. I see you uploaded a lot more pics to your gallery too.
Can't wait to see more on your Oxyopus, and the gait you're talking about is going to be amazing.
Good luck!
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01-22-2008
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Bit Processor
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
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Originally Posted by Tyberius
You should post up a pic of what your PEP screen looks like, I didn't even know Excel could be used that way. I see you uploaded a lot more pics to your gallery too.
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Hi Tyberius!
Thanks, I've edited the main post with some more pics and two screenshoots of PEP.
-Zenta
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01-22-2008
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
Incredible work Zenta! You built all of this yourself? What did you use for designing and cutting the bracket system? Are those like aluminum t-blocks (no, I'm not a mechanical engineer  ) at the joints on the body? Nice work on the cable management too! How sturdy are those single brackets connecting the legs from the shoulders? Sorry I'm just loving this spider and have a ton of questions!
I would love to see a video of Phoenix just walking around. That is just sooo life-like. I had chills when I saw Phoenix move!
Definitely get your Oxyopus project up when you get a chance. Did you build that yourself too? You might want to wait till the next contest round for an official project entry (it'll start March 1st), except of course if you have other projects to enter!
EDIT: Almost forgot! I got you entered in the contest
Last edited by Alex; 01-23-2008 at 10:37 AM.
Reason: I'm a dumbass, hehe. I misspelled Zenta's name;)
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01-22-2008
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Bit Processor
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
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Originally Posted by Alex
Incredible work Zentra! You built all of this yourself? What did you use for designing and cutting the bracket system? Are those like aluminum t-blocks (no, I'm not a mechanical engineer  ) at the joints on the body? Nice work on the cable management too! How sturdy are those single brackets connecting the legs from the shoulders? Sorry I'm just loving this spider and have a ton of questions!
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Hi Alex!
Thanks, Yes I've built them both all myself. The coxa brackets are milled of aluminium with a XYZ drilling machine:

No "T-blocks", all custom made 
Those single brackets (femur and tibia joint) are a bit flexing and they do stress the joint, not healthy for the servo  (especially for the femur servo) I think. But that's the price for a more flexible and agile hexapod  lol.
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I would love to see a video of Phoenix just walking around. That is just sooo life-like. I had chills when I saw Phoenix move!
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Sorry, I don't have any movies of only walking. Maybe later
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Originally Posted by Alex
Definitely get your Oxyopus project up when you get a chance. Did you build that yourself too? You might want to wait till the next contest round for an official project entry (it'll start March 1st), except of course if you have other projects to enter!
EDIT: Almost forgot! I got you entered in the contest 
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So, you suggest I should post Oxyopus for the next contest? That's OK for me. I'm still working with it and I don't have any other project to enter right now.
-Zenta (not Zentra  )
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01-23-2008
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trbothead - TRC admin
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
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The coxa brackets are milled of aluminium with a XYZ drilling machine
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Fun! I used milling machines quite a bit in plastic classes that I took back in the 90's. I always had a blast with them
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Those single brackets (femur and tibia joint) are a bit flexing and they do stress the joint, not healthy for the servo (especially for the femur servo) I think. But that's the price for a more flexible and agile hexapod lol.
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Heavy, bulky brackets are overrated anyway  Unless you were planning on carrying things, on Phoenix's back, you don't need them anyway. Great work on this, it is incredibly flexible!
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So, you suggest I should post Oxyopus for the next contest? That's OK for me. I'm still working with it and I don't have any other project to enter right now.
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For sure! Contestants cannot win two prizes in a single contest and Phoenix is an awesome project by itself.
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-Zenta (not Zentra )
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Haha! My bad, I edited my original post
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01-23-2008
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Robonerd Wrangler
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
Major kudos on this robot. Like everyone else I'm blown away by her fluid motion. I thought of micromagicsystems hexapod v4b as soon as I saw the first video so you certainly nailed that goal of emulating their successful lifelike motion.
Are you planning to start modularizing the walking and movement routines so you can use them to build navigation behavior?
Let me see if I can explain what I mean:
1) Creating many modular routines for movements: walk strait ahead, turning left, turning right, raise body, lower body, etc. (Already done it looks like)
2) Then you can use path planning software to figure out movement around the room: results are something like forward 4 feet, left 25 degrees, forward 3 feet, right 45 degrees, etc
3) Then you use your modular walking functions to execute the navigating.
I'm not sure how the sequencer and excel work though. It might be hard to evolve into that stuff from what you have so far. Do you know any programming languages?
Looking forward to seeing more of this great project!
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01-23-2008
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Mech Warmonger
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
Not to steal Zenta's thunder here, but I'm pretty sure he already has the basic walking modules dialed in. Those are usually the first step with any hexapod, and if you watch the end of the 1st, and some of the 3rd video, you can see the hexapod walking around a bit.
I'll let him explain the excel >> SEQ process and autonomy plans.
Last edited by Tyberius; 01-23-2008 at 12:30 PM.
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01-23-2008
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Datamonger
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
Wicked cool. The mechanics look really nice. I'd like to see it walk around, as well.
I downloaded PEP and spent the past 20 minutes or so tinkering with it. Far out, man. I could mess around with this all day. This is the kind of stuff I was doing when I first started working for Trossen (well, the back-end math, anyway. I don't have the skills to make an interface like that in Excel). I'm going to have to learn some Norwegian so I can read your comments, though
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01-23-2008
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Neuron
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Re: Phoenix and Oxyopus, two multi-legged creatures.
I don't know whether to squish it or eat it! VERY insect-like, very cool execution. I like the inverted servos on the leg ends, looks very good.
What's next, making it leap for your throat?
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